Puch Twingle

"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit) 08/01/2016 at 11:01 • Filed to: None

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Now there’s a beautifully sculpted bike. Why won’t people do this anymore? (not the engine, I get that at least)

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 08/01/2016 at 11:07

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The extent to which competitors cede the “older styles” market share to Harley-Davidson and Harley clones beggars the imagination. Twins can’t be the only type of retro bike that will sell.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 08/01/2016 at 11:24

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/used to have a Puch 250 GS twingle just like the one pictured below (chrome and black)

It *WAS* a nice bike to look at, but my god... the Twingle is an awful thing. Torque? Sure! Its got tons of that! Anything else? Smoke, it’s got plenty of smoke. Also: lack of refinement and excessive vibration, it’s got those too. Ability to run on pretty much any non-viscous flammable liquid? Yup, that too! Did I mention the vibration and smoke? Riding that thing for more than 10 minutes at a time lead to numb hands and only the huge, cushy, overstuffed seat saved your ass. The brakes sucked too.

It was reliable though. Fucking awful, but reliable.

Berang > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 08/01/2016 at 11:26

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One of these is for sale locally, alas I have no money.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Berang 08/01/2016 at 11:30

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If you plan to actually RIDE it, *DO NOT* buy it. These things are torture devices. Like the Model-T version of a motorcycle, but not as comfortable on long trips.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/01/2016 at 11:34

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Are you familiar with Royal Enfield and Triumph’s line of Modern Classics?

http://royalenfield.com/usa/

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes/classics

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 11:36

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I tend to forget about RE for some reason. I’m aware of Triumph, but they’ve got a bit too much “modern” in their “modern classics”.

Berang > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 11:43

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What’s the matter with them?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Berang 08/01/2016 at 11:56

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#1 Vibration.

#2 Shitty brakes.

#3 Smoke.

#4-1,000,000 Did I Mention The Vibration?

Berang > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 12:04

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Is it worse than any other single cylinder?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Berang 08/01/2016 at 12:09

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OH MY GOD YES. Even a poorly balanced single fails to provide the wierd asynchronous double-pulse vibration the twingle does. It may technically vibrate “less” than a poorly balanced single, but the *WAY* it vibrates is something you truly have to experience to understand. Any well-balanced single is *FAR* more comfortable.

They’re pretty reliable though... and have ass-loads of torque.... so they’ve got that going for them

Berang > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 12:14

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I kind of figured they’d be like a parallel twin, I guess it makes sense with lots of parts moving in the same direction at the same time.

DipodomysDeserti > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 12:18

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This is one of the best bike reviews I’ve ever read. Can I pay you to write my next CL ad?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Berang 08/01/2016 at 12:44

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The Puch Twingle is a variation of an engine originally developed for experimental self-propelled gun carriages in WW-I (not “tanks”, more like replacing the horses with a motor). The primary design briefs were high-torque, reliability, and multi-fuel capability.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 13:54

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I’m guessing the engine was bolted right to the frame without using rubber mounts, eh?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/01/2016 at 14:12

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No doubt a contributing factor... (pictured: Puch 250 engine mount)

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/01/2016 at 14:31

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Sounds like someone needs to adapt something like this:

To that bike.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/01/2016 at 14:49

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somebody made a 3-peice rubber-isolated mount kit in the 70's... one of my brother’s friends bike’s actually used to have one. They were OK for a while, but once the rubber got played-out/cracked the engine would actually lurch up and down in the chassis, playing havock with the chain, foot pegs, and balance. The solid mounts were, at least reliable. (can’t find a picture on Google, they’ve probably all disintegrated by now)

Best solution I have seen yet was someone who actually hacked up the frame and welded in an automotive engine mount bracket. “Ruins” the bike as a collectable, but makes it rideable for longer periods without the use of nearly as many four-letter words.